You are right there are several instances where a collection of items is listed as a single item. It fits staves and those can be as small as 4' making the bow section able to accept smaller items. They are normally 2-3' long, so you'd have to tie 2-3 together to get it around the same size/shape. Though I wouldn't have left the rods go unless it was an overly large one. 18 then come out fairly close to a javelin.īut that's just me. Add thin branch/wire/ect through bindings then wrap it with a cloth. javelins are 6+ feet long and arrows are 22" long, so you take 3 bundles of 6 arrows and lay them end to end. Myself, I could see several arrows lined up and bundled to get around the right size/shape. That ends up being an agreement between the item's owner and the DM. It all boils down to what the ending size and shape is. Their are several instances of a collection of items listed as a single item so it's disingenuous to say that because the game doesn't list a certain collecting it doesn't work. The other compartments make no mention of being able to hold arrows or arrow-sized objects and therefore cannot hold arrows. It is a group of singular objects: Arrows. A "Bundle of Arrows" is not an item that exists in Pathfinder anymore than duct taping 10 Ogres together makes them one single super-Ogre. These arrows would not be available to fire, needing to be untied from a bundle, but it is extra storage. Additionally, arrows tend to be in the same general size and shape of an unstrung bow, or spear or staff.īy that, it seems you could store an additional 20-120 arrows in bundles of 20. Not to burst any bubbles, but the quiver says "items of the same general size and shape of _"Ī bundle of 20 arrows has the same weight as a longbow. I wouldn't do this in PFS, since causing confusion or using anything not clearly spelled out is bad manners in such an environment, but in most games a reasonable definition of specific alternative that satisfy the size and shape of a javelin or bow should be able to be worked out. It isn't RAW in that such bundles don't exist on the equipment list, but it is reasonable and fully in line with the 'general size and shape' proviso of the Efficient Quiver. Personally I would go with about 5 in a javelin sized bundle and probably a full quivers worth of 20 in a bow sized bundle, but this would certainly be a GM call. Obviously this isn't available for quickly drawing and firing, but purely as storage would be functional.įrom there, the GM would have to decide if such a case could be designed to hold more than one arrow, and if so, how many, could fit in such a case. It would seem to me they could hold at least 60 + 24, since I would find it pretty hard to say you can't make an arrow case the same general size and shape of a javelin that holds an arrow. That Crazy Alchemist wrote: RAW, Efficient Quiver can hold up to 60 arrows total, no more, since the other compartments do not mention being able to hold anything smaller than a javelin or bow respectively.
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